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May. 2nd, 2003 09:33 amFirst of all, I want your cooperation. ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
slowfox has expressed a desire to Geekmoot. In my experience, such a desire has almost always led to a commitment to participate - after suitable tempting by a variety of people (Says She who Counts Four Scalps.) I've the impression that all slowfox needs is a bit of subtle encouragement from fellow 'Mooters to join in the fun to tip him over the precipice, so to speak. So, I solicit your cooperation. Get slowfox to Geekmoot!
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On the temptation to write or talk about incest:
More than fifteen years ago, Germany was rocked by a scandal. A punk band, Die Ärzte, had released a song called "Geschwisterliebe" - sibling love - where the singer talked about seducing his sister. Song and album were banned. As a consequence, every teenager in Germany knew the words by heart.
Is this different from writing R/G smut?
Yes - there's a crucial difference in intent. The song was intended to be ironic. The singer, Farin Urlaub, actually has a sister - and she found the song funny. Remember we're talking about a fun punk band here. Now, many pre-teens might not get the joke, but I bet that teens do. I mean, come on. Your sister. YUCK! Your brother. EEUW! (This same band, if I remember correctly, also praised the joys of shagging German shepherds and warned all girls that men are pigs who degenerate into farting fat monsters shortly after marriage.)
Contrast with this Ron/Ginny, taken seriously, in a very popular fic. Such a choice of storyline paints incest as glorious and desirable. It's actually suggesting that your brother/sister might be an acceptable target for your raging hormones. Well, there are good medical reasons why that is disparaged by society, and why siblings do not, as a rule, find each other sexually attractive. For substantiation, see the Egyptian Pharaonic family.
Moreover, brother/sister relationships are emotionally very fraught - adding a sexual component to a family relationship spells disaster, especially when one of the parties wants to escape from the relationship.
Not to mention that Ron/Ginny has NO substantiation in canon. Heck, Percy/Ginny would be far better substantiated, if just as yucky. At least Percy shows very openly he cares about and looks out for Ginny (COS!)
Now, I'm not a prude. I'm very tolerant. Heck, I even ship Draco/Goblet. I have a strange, warped, black sense of humour. I adore the work of Chris Morris, who famously satirised the nation's obsession with pedophiles. But I do have my limits. I think incest is very RONG, and I don't want to see it endorsed. I can see it made fun of, though ...
slowfox has expressed a desire to Geekmoot. In my experience, such a desire has almost always led to a commitment to participate - after suitable tempting by a variety of people (Says She who Counts Four Scalps.) I've the impression that all slowfox needs is a bit of subtle encouragement from fellow 'Mooters to join in the fun to tip him over the precipice, so to speak. So, I solicit your cooperation. Get slowfox to Geekmoot!*** *** ***
On the temptation to write or talk about incest:
More than fifteen years ago, Germany was rocked by a scandal. A punk band, Die Ärzte, had released a song called "Geschwisterliebe" - sibling love - where the singer talked about seducing his sister. Song and album were banned. As a consequence, every teenager in Germany knew the words by heart.
Is this different from writing R/G smut?
Yes - there's a crucial difference in intent. The song was intended to be ironic. The singer, Farin Urlaub, actually has a sister - and she found the song funny. Remember we're talking about a fun punk band here. Now, many pre-teens might not get the joke, but I bet that teens do. I mean, come on. Your sister. YUCK! Your brother. EEUW! (This same band, if I remember correctly, also praised the joys of shagging German shepherds and warned all girls that men are pigs who degenerate into farting fat monsters shortly after marriage.)
Contrast with this Ron/Ginny, taken seriously, in a very popular fic. Such a choice of storyline paints incest as glorious and desirable. It's actually suggesting that your brother/sister might be an acceptable target for your raging hormones. Well, there are good medical reasons why that is disparaged by society, and why siblings do not, as a rule, find each other sexually attractive. For substantiation, see the Egyptian Pharaonic family.
Moreover, brother/sister relationships are emotionally very fraught - adding a sexual component to a family relationship spells disaster, especially when one of the parties wants to escape from the relationship.
Not to mention that Ron/Ginny has NO substantiation in canon. Heck, Percy/Ginny would be far better substantiated, if just as yucky. At least Percy shows very openly he cares about and looks out for Ginny (COS!)
Now, I'm not a prude. I'm very tolerant. Heck, I even ship Draco/Goblet. I have a strange, warped, black sense of humour. I adore the work of Chris Morris, who famously satirised the nation's obsession with pedophiles. But I do have my limits. I think incest is very RONG, and I don't want to see it endorsed. I can see it made fun of, though ...
