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You know what I hate about this phrase? I find it offends the Catholic in me. Mortally. I know we've been over this before, but for crying out loud, if you talk in public, please be aware that the Roman Catholic Church considers itself to be built on the foundation of the teachings of Jesus Christ. Just like the Orthodox and the thousands of Protestant, Evangelical, and non-denominational churches out there.

We may not share the same theology, but we share the same roots.

Thank you.

(I wouldn't necessarily object to Christians and Quakers, though, because I know that some Quakers don't call themselves Christians, even though Quaker faith is also deeply rooted in Jesus Christ. What it boils down to is to respect the way in which other denominations see themselves.)

Date: 2004-11-16 07:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasaki99.livejournal.com
Out here it's "Christians and Mormons" coming from the mouths of dweebs - just as stupid as what you have encountered. I think it was last year that some sect of the Baptist church went to Utah with the expressed mission to 'convert' all the Latter Day Saints to their flavor of protestantism. I nearly laughed my head off. I know historically christians have been fighting each other for centuries, but it's all too stupid to countenance, especially from a faith that supposedly preaches love. <_<

Date: 2004-11-16 09:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wahlee-98.livejournal.com
It was a few years back, actually-- 1998. The Southern Baptists held their annual convention here with the intention to convince all of us of our wicked ways. Two of them knocked on my Seminary teacher's door. He gave them Kool-Aid and brownies and sent them on their way. ;)

But-- yeah. Sick of hearing that I'm not a Christian.

Date: 2004-11-16 09:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katiedarling.livejournal.com
Southern Baptists don't believe that anybody is Christian unless they are Southern Baptist. Seriously. My mother thinks I am going straight to hell for going to the Antiochan Orthodox and Greek Orthodox Churches (Antiochan when I can, Greek is all that's local now). You should hear the wonderdful things they said about the Charismatic Pentacostal I dated a while back. Did you know he worshipped the devil? *sigh*

Date: 2004-11-16 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettyannamoon.livejournal.com
Technically, individual Southern Baptist churches can choose whether or not to follow the decisions of the SBC, so beliefs on who's a Christian and who's going to heaven and hell vary from congregation to congregation. But yeah, the SBC certainly spawns some of the most intolerant and un-Christian doctrine out there.

Date: 2004-11-16 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prettyannamoon.livejournal.com
Actually, I guess that should be un-Christlike. "Christian" covers a whole matter of sins.

Date: 2004-11-16 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasaki99.livejournal.com
Fortunately, Christ covers all the sins, if we believe the core teaching of our faiths. Thank goodness, coz us humans sure do need the coverage. ^_^

Date: 2004-11-16 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasaki99.livejournal.com
Oh dear, having your mom giving you a bad time over your faith practices would be hard. My sympathies. I don't understand how faiths that grew out of the teachings of a man who kept company with prostitutes, lepers, and tax collectors suddenly feel as if they have a lock on heaven and know for certain the mind of God. Hang in there. God must love variety - look at all the different opinions out there. ^_^

Date: 2004-11-16 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasaki99.livejournal.com
Yay to your teacher for being so good to the folks pounding on his door. Not sure I would have been so gracious had it been me. Was it 98? Seemed not that long ago. My sister lives in SLC and was indignant at the idea of one church declaring another 'non-christian'. I don't recall my own church ever declaring one branch of the faith or another as 'not', but then we're ELCA and everyone knows we're all a buncha liberals. ^_^

In behavior and deeds, my Mormon neighbors are among the most christian people I know, and that's all that counts in my book (and probably in God's book as well.)

I really can't see God/Goddess/Creative Force as playing a game of 'cosmic gotcha' with us - you live, follow your faith, die, and God says, "Ha! Wrong choice! Gotcha!" What sort of God would *that* be? What I can see is God being infinitely compassionate with the created world and all the beings who live in it.

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